Not many have been around since they are new this year. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). In todays market, it needs a more modern stock design, carbon barrel, and premium trigger to be worth the price they are asking. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. I own the X-Bolt in 7mm Magnum and it is fantastic. If youre patient and know what youre doing. I agree with you. Thank you. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. Which takes of the other half of recoil . You never mentioned. We have a complete post on the best rifles under $400 right here. Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. The narrow width put my eye behind the scope nicely but also leaves enough fudge factor for owners who will add an aftermarket cheek piece or wrap. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. You sound like the new guy that is 25 and has 150 years experience. A fine rifle like this is perfect for beating to shit while you learn the other basics. Any of you guys have any experience with the Burris signature scopes? Dont get me wrong. The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. If you want to hunt larger game like elk, then Id recommend getting the same rifle in .30-06 Springfield. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? See also Gluck. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. I might add for a hunting rifle the 6.5 Swede is superior to the 6.5 Screedmore. I have watched your reviews on both, so maybe your opinion on whether itd be worth the additional money To go with the Waypoint. Thanks. Frankly, I just dont see the value in the Werkman. Scope bases follow the Remington 700 mounting footprint, but the action length does not so only 2-piece R700 bases or separate rings will work. Great choices, Andrew. Im looking for a great elk rifle/big game in left handed. All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . But honestly these are not deal-breakers (or at least I think so). Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. Its like comparing a Kia against a BMW. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. I got mine during their initial recall for $199. The redesigned rifle includes all the original features that. Hornady Precision hunter was working well in mine. Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. I found accuracy to be okay but not great, feeding was okay but not great, and the design was usable, but not really modern. Watch my review of the MPR here. I am not sure, or saying one is better than the other, but that was something that bothered me. Hold on to it. I was in the market for an affordable hunting rifle this year and you helped me a lot and changed my mind on my first choice. Great rifle. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . They do have a more expensive option for a titanium action that is even lighter, but I feel the titanium actions just arent as smooth in the hand. Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. It has the Accufit stock, but not the Accustock with the aluminum rail system. Never fired, sold it for 600). That one is on my radar and Id love to hear your thoughts on it. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. Your email address will not be published. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Im in love. The Cross is great for 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC, but the stock just isnt suitable for heavy recoiling cartridges. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. i would like to buy new as its going to be my first rifle so thought with mod . I verified it with factory ammo, Guaranteed 1 MOA accuracy, but probably beats that, Guaranteed 1 MOA. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size. Surprised you didnt mention anything about the Sako 85. This rifle broke two scopes I highly recommend the Leupold which I have on it now .team this up with the Barnes TTPX BT. Great reviews, but nothing on the Browning AB3? Is it ever gonna happen or should I just buy a 6.5 prc? The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. I am finally biting the bullet and having a custom gun made. These are incredible results from a rifle with an MSRP barely over $600! Vlad is typical progtard. and Weight: 6.6 pounds Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead. Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. Alpha? Obscenely lightweight. I would pick 7mm Rem Mag since you mentioned long range. I owned one and sold it. Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? Id love to give one a good in-depth review, but I havent yet. You mentioned in your latest live video that youre off the Savage Ultralight these days. The action is a Mauser type like Sako. Its decent, but if you can possibly squeeze another $100 into your budget to get a version with Cerakote, get the CRKT version as itll be more durable in the woods. Ive shot it twice and didnt like it either time. Keep up the good work! The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. I didnt see a Bergara in your list. Required fields are marked *. If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) But after that, its likely going to be a custom. When will you be putting the Seekins HAVAK PH2 through its paces? Things happen and every animal is different, but I feel like its my duty to show that respect. If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. The only problem with a Springfield 2020 Waypoint is they dont offer it in enough chamberings. I looked at the Tikas as well and for the calibers Im looking at, I just think theyll beat the hell outta my shoulder. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. Ive never shot one that couldnt achieve a 1 group at 100 yards. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. Do you have any experience or thoughts on the JTAC? I was considering the Sig Cross, but the safe selector issue concerns me. Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? I havent tried the Rage yet, but I have used that same action and stock in different configurations. Its hard to find info anywhere on it. If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. bolt turn was a bit rough out of the box. Watch my review here. Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. I even bought one Mauser with a shot out barrel knowing it was shot out for $240 dollars complete with scope and had a local gunsmith rebarrel it for me and reblue the whole gun and I had only $600 in it. I watched each individual rifles review from you and the best option under $350, but I would like to hear your feedback from either a new video or just through here about which of the 3 rifles you think is the best in that category since you havent put them head to head in that category. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. A stock upgrade is also an option, Stockys is producing several different carbon fiber drop-in stocks for the Vanguard/Howa rifle line. Both have cold hammer forged barrels 2. Unsurprisingly, the Momentum is equipped with a synthetic stock. I expect to spend a few thousand or more to get what would meet my needs. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE True Price: $ 816.99. What is your opinion on the Edge vs Rival? Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. Beater rifles go until they cant. A junk plasticky trigger guard, its enough to make you barf just looking at it. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. Thanks in advance. If so have they made any notable changes to this model over previous models? Keep up the good work! The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. I have a Sears gun with an FN Action and a deluxe hand checkered walnut stock (real hand checkering not junk machine cut checkering) in .270 caliber and I paid $300 for it used. HOWEVER, since recording that review Ive also had the opportunity to hunt a good bit. Also, the very aged sporter stock design doesnt lend itself well to shooting long rangeespecially in such a light rifle. Ive never seen Sea Adler anywhere in the US, do you know if theyre imported? Keep the good work buddy on your show. Sorry youtube is being such a pain in the ass to you as well. A shiny one. It is very expensive. Highly recommended. You made your point. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. . What do you think? Could you add another tier or two? Which one do you recommend, God-bless you for being a second amendment supporter I will pray for you your wife and your family God-bless, Wow! Never spent over $500 before. Do you have any information on the Howa, or an opinion on which way I should. Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. Cheers. Of all the rifles I own, if you just said Grab a rifle and go hunting without any more specifics of where Id be hunting or what Id be hunting, Id grab that rifle. Do you have any other recommendations or would you like to sell the Savage? Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. Not sure what caliber you tested the bergara b14 ridge in but, I bought one from Scheels last year in 6.5 prc and it would scratch up the casings, and jam up on the last round. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. Would love to hear your review and/or thoughts on military surplus and/or rifles you and friends first started on. Hey Jim, Gun #: 999725884. a few few hundred cycles smoothed it right up. (1) The Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, (2) You could wait a few months for the new Bergara B14 Squared Crest to come out, or (3) Get a Sig Cross. Its become a turn off. Thats a nice collection. And although most of my center fires are Deluxe grade, the aforementioned still holds true. Im at a point that I can spend $1500+ for a hunting rifle. Christensen MPR The MPR looks fantastic, but I do feel like its a little bit of lipstick on a pig. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. Action is amazing and a really great factory trigger. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Keep up the great work. Franchi Momentum Varmint Elite .224 Valkyrie 24" 1:7 Bbl TrueTimber Prairie/Midnight Bronze 7+1 Rifle 41712. Saving a penny by not buying grease and oil costs you hundreds of dollars in rust repair. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. To my surprise John Mogle responded and told me to send in my gun and they would replace the barrel and fix the problem. Zero quality control issues. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc (Live in northern Alberta.) Thank you and keep up the great job! Also, I am 62 and getting tired of the recoil my 7mm Rem Mag and .270 has, would the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC or 7mm-08 be a good alternative? I appreciate the blunt honesty. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). Was very happy with all of it. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. Doesnt do it when there is no round in the chamber. 7mm mag, 300 Win mag and 30-06. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. Do you know a lot about rifles. Bergara B14 Hunter? Feeler gauges became shims for my lathe and mill. I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and love it as my go-to big game hunting rifle. Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. unloaded and 46.7 . Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. I would have to agree that no higher end rifle list should ever not have a Mod 70 or a Sako on it. I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. Having said that, in this price range, a lot of the decision is matching the rifle to your unique circumstances and preferences. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? You lost when you bought junk because it will always be low cost junk and you lost when you went to purchase something of quality because the price went way up because you fked around too long before you realized you should have bought quality to begin with when it was still relatively affordable. Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. $799.00 Add To Cart For Price. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. What r your thought for a high end choice up to around the 3k range? I think you did a good job in your review of 25 hunting rifles at various price points. Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle break.MOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. I am looking for a semi-auto gun for hunting, been looking at the Savage MSR 10 in 6.5 CM and the Smith and Wesson M&P 10 in 6.5 CM (I would really love to see an AR10 in 6.5 PRC). There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. There are many rifles above the $2k price point. It seems to boast a sturdier stock. My main gun is a Tikka T3 in 30-06. Manual dont talk about 6.5 Creedmore ! It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. Man I really love your reviews! Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! Keep them coming! The only competitor would be a full custom on the amazing MDT HNT 26 chassis. I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. Thanks, Joe. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. Travis Skurray from Australia. Thats unfortunate because theyre chamberimg it in 7PRC. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. I have been looking at the savage 110 ultralite 6.5 creedmoor. I recently purchased a Franchi Momentum 300 win mag w/24 in. Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. Removable e Box Magazine (Large Capacity) Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! and see how it stacks up next to the high end factory rifles. They seem to check a lot of the boxes Im looking in a rifle and seem to have a lot of bang for the buck for a rifle just over $500. Im sold on the 7mm-08 for hunting but am having a hard time deciding/finding a decent rifle chambered in that caliber. Jim. I was disappointed to see that you no longer recommend the Savage 110 ultralight, having watched the original review which just about made up my mind to spend the $1200. Interested in loading this cartridge. Franchi Rifles - EuroOptic.com I do have a question that I hope you will address. I have been looking at the Browning BAR for years, its a great gun, but I would really like to have an AR format. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. . But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. I preferred the action on the FME a lil bit over the CVA, but I could not get over how every Franchi had stock contact somewhere along the barrel. Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. I recently had a chance to sight it in and run everything over the chronograph . Great choice in a gun. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. Would you take the Waypoint over the Seekins? Ill update the post. Jim, Ive had three X bolts in 6.8 western in the past 8 months and all shot well but velocities were a good 100 fps or more below what was stated on box on three different brands. Thank you! You know Beretta will not support either rifle. Do you think this is normal business practice ? Its just tough to get excited about because it has no single stand-out feature. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. I think the rifle is feature rich and might be a real shooter. Jim, any thoughts on the Venture 2 from TC? Plus all the pros of the above B-14 review. Along with the detail you put into your reviews of new ammo like the 6.5 and now 7 PRC. Did you pick up the Seekins? All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. I am really interested in a waypoint. Advice? There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. Although, I think Vlad is optimistic on price, but you can find a deal. My arms are a bit short and most hunting rifles are just too long for me, length of pull wise. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. It would also handle bigger calibers MUCH better than the Cross. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? After getting what I believe to be a bad copy of a Ruger American in 308, I am looking to upgrade. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. In the video below, I review the Fierce Rogue and show what I like/dislike about the Fierce Rogue. Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. Ive tried a lot of others, including Hornady PH (178gr I think) and Hornady Match 168 gr, and they are lucky to shoot 4 inch group with huge point of impact change. I have the 2020 waypoint. Browning X-Bolt Pro I like the X-Bolt Pro. Theres something cool coming. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. Thanks Jim. I know I have expediencies it. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. Weatherby Mark V Weatherby makes a fantastic rifle. If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? Thanks, I enjoy watching you on YouTube and its really nice to see your reviews before purchasing guns and related stuff. The reasonwhen Im going to kill an animal, I want to kill it stone deadone well-placed shot. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. These are deal breakers. 5. Hey Jim, Seems like a solid gun for the money and straight pull seems fun. I am looking to spend around $1200, and I am between the Savage ultralite and the Howa carbon kratos. I might add I have never found any real advantage with a short action rifle either. With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. Ergonomics * * * * . Accuracy * * * * * I agree! The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. Boy, so many good 7 mags. I load for better, but what would you choose? It has become one of my favorite guns. Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, 277 Sig Fury. I actually ordered a CVA cascade first, in .308, but changed my mind and returned it and bought the Franchi. Well, I picked up a momentum elite in .308, and absolutely love it so far, still deciding on a scope to go on it, but cant wait to get to shooting it. BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. I am looking to buy a Savage 110 Timberline in 300 win mag, what is opinion about it ? Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. I can stretch the budget to a Browning if I have to, but the Winchester XPR is more in my price range. Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .308 Win 18" 1:11" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41750. Have you considered the recently released rifles introduced by Franchi? Might want to hold off a month or so. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. Winchester Xpr or Franchi Momentum ? In 270. | Rokslide Forum Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. Id be interested in seeing a review of the q fix. It shoots as well as some of my full blown custom rifles I have thousands invested in. Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. what do you think of it? Overall, it seems like a decent gun for the price. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. I just want an all around deer rifle that is easy to find ammo for. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270.
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